for civil rights. totally on board and never purged from their ranks, they never purged a message that was very -- that really turned off black voters, they never exceeded 20% with the black vote even after 1964 and even if you pass comprehensive immigration reform, you have to get rid of the nativism, too. >> you don't have to go back that far. since 1980, the white percentage of the electorate shrinking year after year and heading to a black and brown majority in 2050. you cannot win national elections feeling hostile to black and brown people and trying to redress. the devil's in the details. what is a jan brewer when we get down to the border commission? what are they going to do? what are they going to see? seeing that then we'll know what people are going to feel about this. >> i think it is remarkable and we should note how dramatic the turnaround has been on this issue. as recently as the campaign for president, mitt romney had to advocate self deportation and attack rick perry from the right a